I have a couple Loons and all I know is the 85 refers to the year, based on the serial numbers of mine. Mine are both Kevlar and have a sticker on the rear deck indicating it. Windows server 2012 remote desktop configuration. The Kevlar models are in the high 40-mid 50's range in weight. The glass models I've seen are much heavier. There are also Oscoda Loons that may even be chop-gun fiberglass and weigh up to 70 pounds. My 85 kevlar loon has a gold kevlar color on the inside.
But to confuse things there are 'goldenglass' Loons out there. A couple of the fiberglass ones I've seen have been painted a gray color on the inside. My 98 kevlar loon is more of a grayish and gold weave cloth showing on the inside. For what it is worth Joe. Hey, whose green Loon is that? Looks like my 'before' pic of my 1985 Green kevlar Loon.
Here is a picture of the boat taken by the seller. 48 pounds after my mods. Note the sliding seat assembly: Here is a picture of a 1987 chop gun fiberglass Loon, weighing in at 69 pounds. It has a non-sliding height adjustable seat with portage pads.
Note the interior is different color/texture: Another picture of the Oscoda Loon: I installed a Superior expedition seat in the Kevlar Loon. Padded and with a backrest, very comfortable for long sits: Finally, on my 85 Kevlar Loon I removed the broken down vinyl seam tape, filled in the voids with filler, and painted a gel coat stripe on instead. It was supposed to be black but mixing black pigment with white gel coat makes gray, not black! Here it is next to a Monarch and a Sea Wind for comparison: I'm a Krugerhead.
Or a Loonatic. Posting these pics helps keep my mind off the fact that it is 13 degrees out here in Missouri when I'm NOT doing the EC! Thanks for sharing the pics. I like seeing what other folks have in the way of these vintage (and new) boats. Here is a 1998 Kevlar Loon, my latest pride and joy.
The interior color is a bit different.it is wet in this photo explaining the discoloration. Oh, the 1985 Loon doesn't have the Kevlar sticker like the 98 shown here: Not sure if I'm going to 'Krugerize' my 1998 with the expedition/portage seat and Kruger style rudder, it is still equipped with the OEM feathercraft kayak rudder.
JoeWildlife: Hey, whose green Loon is that? Looks like my 'before' pic of my 1985 Green kevlar Loon. Here is a picture of the boat taken by the seller. 48 pounds after my mods. Note the sliding seat assembly: Here is a picture of a 1987 chop gun fiberglass Loon, weighing in at 69 pounds. It has a non-sliding height adjustable seat with portage pads. Note the interior is different color/texture: Another picture of the Oscoda Loon: I installed a Superior expedition seat in the Kevlar Loon.
Padded and with a backrest, very comfortable for long sits: Finally, on my 85 Kevlar Loon I removed the broken down vinyl seam tape, filled in the voids with filler, and painted a gel coat stripe on instead. It was supposed to be black but mixing black pigment with white gel coat makes gray, not black! Here it is next to a Monarch and a Sea Wind for comparison: I'm a Krugerhead.
Or a Loonatic. Posting these pics helps keep my mind off the fact that it is 13 degrees out here in Missouri when I'm NOT doing the EC! Joe Hey Joe, What difference do you find between the Monarch and the Sea Wind when paddling.
I have a Monarch but have never paddled a Sea Wind. I see them in the Everglades during the EC.
Pete, I think there is very little difference between a Monarch and Sea Wind when paddling. I can tell you the Sea Wind has a slightly more swept back bow.
Also, the bottom on a Sea Wind is more rounded/has less of a flat spot, I guess it must because the Sea Wind has a bit more 'flare' to it. I'm thinking that the Sea Wind is a bit less affected by waves from the beam as a result. But really, the differences are really minor and I don't know that I'm a discerning enough paddler to know the difference from the seat. I catamaran my Sea Wind and Monarch together when paddling and fishing with my daughter, it works well. The only issue you might have with a Monarch is that the rudder sucks in comparison to the Sea Wind. It just doesn't turn the boat as well. Pete, Mark P.
Of Kruger Canoes will sell you a rudder, if you can wait for it. He told me he is taking the summer off. He will also sell you a Kruger kevlar seat, which is a bit lighter. But back to the rudder.I built my own rudder for my Monarch and one of my Loons. Same design as the Kruger rudder but with a different hinge setup.
My Loon had a 'split stern'. I basically used a door hinge, one side on the rudder assembly with the other side inserted into the slot and bolted in.
On my Monarch I bought a pair of grudgeons from Duxworks and the 'pin' is a stainless bolt. To build your own, Kruger style, you need the stiff aluminum for the rudder blade, as well as a different kind that can be bent for the 'wings'. I found some of each at a scrapyard. OR you can just leave it the way it is.on flat water you don't really need 'more rudder'. When I bought my Monarch, I thought it was fine. But when I tried out a Kruger, I started to think the Monarch turned like the Titanic. It looks like Lizardskin's Loon has a rudder much like the one that was on my green/white Loon when I got it.
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I think it is the 'split stern' style. The hinge is inserted into the slot and bolted in. Either way, the Kruger design rudders work well (and I would call LS's Loon a Kruger style rudder), as compared to a typical kayak foil rudder. On one old Loon I had, the foil would vibrate and hum at speed. I can't tell you exactly what my 'issue' is with the Monarch rudder, maybe a combination of flex in the cable attachment 'arms', maybe the blade isn't as big as a Kruger rudder, or maybe it doesn't pivot as much.
Again, not something that would would ever recognize as a problem unless you have paddled a Sea Wind and experienced the difference. I'm not sure I've ever seen two Loons with identical rudders:) Joe.
I have a couple Loons and all I know is the 85 refers to the year, based on the serial numbers of mine. Mine are both Kevlar and have a sticker on the rear deck indicating it. The Kevlar models are in the high 40-mid 50's range in weight. The glass models I've seen are much heavier. There are also Oscoda Loons that may even be chop-gun fiberglass and weigh up to 70 pounds.
My 85 kevlar loon has a gold kevlar color on the inside. But to confuse things there are 'goldenglass' Loons out there. A couple of the fiberglass ones I've seen have been painted a gray color on the inside.
My 98 kevlar loon is more of a grayish and gold weave cloth showing on the inside. For what it is worth Joe. Hey, whose green Loon is that?
Looks like my 'before' pic of my 1985 Green kevlar Loon. Here is a picture of the boat taken by the seller.
48 pounds after my mods. Note the sliding seat assembly: Here is a picture of a 1987 chop gun fiberglass Loon, weighing in at 69 pounds. It has a non-sliding height adjustable seat with portage pads. Note the interior is different color/texture: Another picture of the Oscoda Loon: I installed a Superior expedition seat in the Kevlar Loon. Padded and with a backrest, very comfortable for long sits: Finally, on my 85 Kevlar Loon I removed the broken down vinyl seam tape, filled in the voids with filler, and painted a gel coat stripe on instead. It was supposed to be black but mixing black pigment with white gel coat makes gray, not black! Here it is next to a Monarch and a Sea Wind for comparison: I'm a Krugerhead.
Or a Loonatic. Posting these pics helps keep my mind off the fact that it is 13 degrees out here in Missouri when I'm NOT doing the EC!
The gospel of john movie torrent download. Thanks for sharing the pics. I like seeing what other folks have in the way of these vintage (and new) boats.
Here is a 1998 Kevlar Loon, my latest pride and joy. The interior color is a bit different.it is wet in this photo explaining the discoloration. Oh, the 1985 Loon doesn't have the Kevlar sticker like the 98 shown here: Not sure if I'm going to 'Krugerize' my 1998 with the expedition/portage seat and Kruger style rudder, it is still equipped with the OEM feathercraft kayak rudder.
JoeWildlife: Hey, whose green Loon is that? Looks like my 'before' pic of my 1985 Green kevlar Loon. Here is a picture of the boat taken by the seller. 48 pounds after my mods.
Note the sliding seat assembly: Here is a picture of a 1987 chop gun fiberglass Loon, weighing in at 69 pounds. It has a non-sliding height adjustable seat with portage pads. Note the interior is different color/texture: Another picture of the Oscoda Loon: I installed a Superior expedition seat in the Kevlar Loon. Padded and with a backrest, very comfortable for long sits: Finally, on my 85 Kevlar Loon I removed the broken down vinyl seam tape, filled in the voids with filler, and painted a gel coat stripe on instead.
It was supposed to be black but mixing black pigment with white gel coat makes gray, not black! Here it is next to a Monarch and a Sea Wind for comparison: I'm a Krugerhead. Or a Loonatic. Posting these pics helps keep my mind off the fact that it is 13 degrees out here in Missouri when I'm NOT doing the EC! Joe Hey Joe, What difference do you find between the Monarch and the Sea Wind when paddling.
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I have a Monarch but have never paddled a Sea Wind. I see them in the Everglades during the EC.
Pete, I think there is very little difference between a Monarch and Sea Wind when paddling. I can tell you the Sea Wind has a slightly more swept back bow. Also, the bottom on a Sea Wind is more rounded/has less of a flat spot, I guess it must because the Sea Wind has a bit more 'flare' to it. I'm thinking that the Sea Wind is a bit less affected by waves from the beam as a result. But really, the differences are really minor and I don't know that I'm a discerning enough paddler to know the difference from the seat.
I catamaran my Sea Wind and Monarch together when paddling and fishing with my daughter, it works well. The only issue you might have with a Monarch is that the rudder sucks in comparison to the Sea Wind. It just doesn't turn the boat as well. Pete, Mark P. Of Kruger Canoes will sell you a rudder, if you can wait for it.
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He told me he is taking the summer off. He will also sell you a Kruger kevlar seat, which is a bit lighter. But back to the rudder.I built my own rudder for my Monarch and one of my Loons. Same design as the Kruger rudder but with a different hinge setup. My Loon had a 'split stern'. I basically used a door hinge, one side on the rudder assembly with the other side inserted into the slot and bolted in. On my Monarch I bought a pair of grudgeons from Duxworks and the 'pin' is a stainless bolt.
To build your own, Kruger style, you need the stiff aluminum for the rudder blade, as well as a different kind that can be bent for the 'wings'. I found some of each at a scrapyard. OR you can just leave it the way it is.on flat water you don't really need 'more rudder'. When I bought my Monarch, I thought it was fine. But when I tried out a Kruger, I started to think the Monarch turned like the Titanic. It looks like Lizardskin's Loon has a rudder much like the one that was on my green/white Loon when I got it. I think it is the 'split stern' style.
The hinge is inserted into the slot and bolted in. Either way, the Kruger design rudders work well (and I would call LS's Loon a Kruger style rudder), as compared to a typical kayak foil rudder. On one old Loon I had, the foil would vibrate and hum at speed. I can't tell you exactly what my 'issue' is with the Monarch rudder, maybe a combination of flex in the cable attachment 'arms', maybe the blade isn't as big as a Kruger rudder, or maybe it doesn't pivot as much.
Again, not something that would would ever recognize as a problem unless you have paddled a Sea Wind and experienced the difference. I'm not sure I've ever seen two Loons with identical rudders:) Joe.